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Drop of Fear · Aug 13, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Customize armbraces NOW

CHunterX · Aug 13, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by kade

Someone stated before me that Armbraces were the most prevalently duped, everything else was just the tip of the iceberg. I'm willing to bet Armbraces were just the tip of the iceberg, and that the ones who were originally intelligent to figure out the duping process were intelligent enough to do so without getting caught.

No telling how many illegitimate items are circulating right now and honestly, anything you own could be a direct result of someone's 30sec duping process...

Ecto has already been flooded into the market, the demand for the gems to make Vabbian armor isn't high enough (you never see anyone selling something for 100k+ 10 diamonds [at least i havent]), Green and Gold weapons aren't stackable. I'm sure other stupid things have been duped, but I'm also sure that everything else is minor compared to the masses of Armbraces now in the game, and virtually impossible to track.

unienaule · Aug 13, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

You @*$*##@@s, it's not just armbraces, and you can't dupe them with no reconnects, read the thread plzkthx.

Kendar Muert · Aug 13, 2007, 08:02 AM // 08:02

it doesnt matter whether you still can or not- the damage is done.

Bryant Again · Aug 13, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

Customize armbraces NOW

Customize everything nAOOOOO!O!!!

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Originally Posted by unienaule

You @*$*##@@s, it's not just armbraces, and you can't dupe them with no reconnects, read the thread plzkthx.

Whoa there moderator.

Lilanthe · Aug 13, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

Well I sure hope Anet has something in their bag to detect, remove all the duped stuff and kick the f*** out of the game all these dupers.

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You @*$*##@@s, it's not just armbraces, and you can't dupe them with no reconnects, read the thread plzkthx.

I dunno if you have power in this section of the forum, but if you do, you could change the thread title for one more appropriate of the situation.

brokenmonkey · Aug 13, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

Guys, wether you like it or not, this has been going on for a long time, maybe even since reconnects began.

Just one thing, since people REALLY haven't known about it until now, then, hell, your sword, or bow or staff could be a duped item, and for the last 2-4 months this hasn't REALLY effected the economy, so how does knowing it has been happening effect it? nothing Really.

Props the person who found the bug, but shame on you for not reporting, you have cause a terrible chain of events.

Drop of Fear · Aug 13, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

so. once it's evident that ppl could dupe anything exploiting reconnects, there are few things to do to control damage.

remove reconnects so no more items are duped. D O N E
customize armbraces as it's the most widely duped item.
ban all the ppl who had been relogging over and over the last few days or weeks.
if many ppl besides the koreans used this exploit the last 2 days, then roll back 3 days.

arcanemacabre · Aug 13, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

A rollback would be a disaster. Plus, if they were even thinking about a rollback, they'd either shut the game down temporarily (while they figure it out), or at least tell everyone that they are considering it, to prepare everyone that anything they do from now on might not amount to anything since it would reverse.

Top priority is probably fixing the ability to log in from a different computer and still be considered "disconnected" from the instance you left. That way re-connects could be re-instated and this dupe thing is squashed.

Next? Ban the exploiters, well, once you find 'em. After that? No idea. This is a huge mess, but I'm sure they have enough resources to determine how big of a mess it really is, and what measures to take to fix it, or just let GW take one for the team.

Down, but not out, hopefully.

Zeek Aran · Aug 13, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

[I got the guy's permission to post his name]

MirkoTeran · Aug 13, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

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Originally Posted by korcan

have you even tried to buy one of the rarer minis? its virtually impossible to find a seller with only a limited amount of them around. thats why they were offering obscene amounts of money for them in the first place.

I have some of the rare ones. I know how hard are they to come by. But the point is that some of them were offering absurd amounts of ectos/armbraces for not so rare miniptes like yeti, naga and oni. I truly believe some of them already had them.

In any case, I'd love to see how this turns out.

Guardian of the Light · Aug 13, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Now that reconnect is disabled does anyone mind telling exactly how this was done?

spyke136 · Aug 13, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Customize everything nAOOOOO!O!!!

rofl and literally destroy the economy? "selling stack of feathers 100k!"

for those of you who think this is only armbraces, please stop being so naive. if you discovered this exploit what is the first thing you would dupe? armbraces? a highend item very hard to sell since many people dont have enough ectos or perhaps...the ectos themselves. think how many ectos are floating around on some of these dupers' accounts. the only reason they started doing mass volume armbraces is for the minipets to dupe. these minipets are the RAREST items in the game, and most sought after right now especially with the bonuses they afford through GWEN. so they super duped armbraces to easily entice minipet owners to sell.

CHunterX · Aug 13, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

so. once it's evident that ppl could dupe anything exploiting reconnects, there are few things to do to control damage.

remove reconnects so no more items are duped. D O N E
customize armbraces as it's the most widely duped item.
ban all the ppl who had been relogging over and over the last few days or weeks.
if many ppl besides the koreans used this exploit the last 2 days, then roll back 3 days.

1: Done
2: Unfair to those who traded minipets for armbraces
3: Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard
4: Thats racist

arcanemacabre · Aug 13, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

so. once it's evident that ppl could dupe anything exploiting reconnects, there are few things to do to control damage.

remove reconnects so no more items are duped. D O N E
customize armbraces as it's the most widely duped item.
ban all the ppl who had been relogging over and over the last few days or weeks.
if many ppl besides the koreans used this exploit the last 2 days, then roll back 3 days.

No. Those doing simple texture mods (which are permitted) would be wrongfully banned (there's a lot of logging in and out when modding).

Lilanthe · Aug 13, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Now that reconnect is disabled does anyone mind telling exactly how this was done?

Originally Posted by Hlaford
Proof? By using proof, I risk the possibility of being banned myself. I know it is only word of mouth, but it is true. Guild wars is made into instances, and we now have the possibility of reconnecting after a loss of connection. thus, a character can be in a mission, "lose connection" and sign in, at town, trade away items, "reconnect" to the inmission character, and trade those items, then meet somewhere again to reclaim his duplicated items. Need 3 people. Easy as pie.

korcan · Aug 13, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Lilanthe

Well I sure hope Anet has something in their bag to detect, remove all the duped stuff and kick the f*** out of the game all these dupers.

there would be a "duper tree" of transactions so long that it would take anet forever to track down the source.

if this has indeed happening for over a month, just imagine all the people directly or indirectly connected to a dupers original transaction.

Kendar Muert · Aug 13, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

You had two computers, and logged in, booting off the other account, and duplicating something somehow, from what i can figure, then reconnected. Rinse and repeat.

Witchblade · Aug 13, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

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Originally Posted by Lilanthe

Well I sure hope Anet has something in their bag to detect, remove all the duped stuff and kick the f*** out of the game all these dupers.

dunno if this works like D2 ... items have and ID
how can u detect duped stuff from "selfdropped" ?
(even if a guy has a stack of those, u cant make em poof just like that)

Tijger · Aug 13, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

To be fair... the development of Guild Wars 2 comes a distant second behind sorting out a major exploit with the potential to lose them alot of players like this if its true.

Yeah, except for one thing, the majority of GW players dont even KNOW what an armbrace of truth is. I know what it is and I have a fair bit of cash but I've not had one or wanted one.

Exploit or not, if this was true and a problem then it needs to be fixed and will be fixed asap, I dont know why you'd even imagine it wouldnt be *shrug*